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Refurbished Anker SOLIX F2000 Portable Power Station 2400W Solar Generator 2048Wh $879.20

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Refurbished Anker SOLIX F2000 Portable Power Station 2400W Solar Generator 2048Wh

I have one and it's very quiet and efficient.

$879.20 after coupon code MEMORIALDEALS

Less than 42 cents/wh

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Refurbished Anker SOLIX F2000 Portable Power Station 2400W Solar Generator 2048Wh

I have one and it's very quiet and efficient.

$879.20 after coupon code MEMORIALDEALS

Less than 42 cents/wh

https://www.ebay.com/itm/385670178584

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why would anyone ever buy a "refurbished" battery? It's not like the put a new battery in it, your just buying an old battery that you have no idea how many hours are on it.
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Quote from davidt100 :
why would anyone ever buy a "refurbished" battery? It's not like the put a new battery in it, your just buying an old battery that you have no idea how many hours are on it.
Because LFP battery is rated at 4000+ cycle. if someone cycle from 0 to 100% everyday, you have more than 12 years of lifetime.
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Quote from davidt100 :
why would anyone ever buy a "refurbished" battery? It's not like the put a new battery in it, your just buying an old battery that you have no idea how many hours are on it.

I think these power stations, or at least some, have a battery hour meter.
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Quote from MinhTrinh :
Because LFP battery is rated at 4000+ cycle. if someone cycle from 0 to 100% everyday, you have more than 12 years of lifetime.
But... How do you know that the refurbished you bought wasn't already cycled 2000 times by the previous owner?
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You can buy 2 brand new C1000 with 1056Wh each for the same price.
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not a good price for a refurb! even too much for brand new, but especially not for refurb!
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Quote from Spacerus :
You can buy 2 brand new C1000 with 1056Wh each for the same price.
or 3 refurbs (on temu) for the same price...

ecoflow delta 2 max refurb for under $700 is not only a better unit, but a better price by nearly two hundred bucks.

people are out of their minds for wanting to thumbs up this for $879.20

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people are out of their minds for wanting to thumbs up this for $879.20
SD has gotten much worse over the last year. At this point I'm just using it to find bad deals to laugh at and figure out which companies are struggling to move stock.
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So much negativity, so little data...

As for our subject (Anker Solix F2000) - half a year ago they basically had little competition for people needing to stretch AC energy usage over longer period of time, as their usage of GaN tech allowed them better efficiency of inverters than anybody else. For example, new Ecoflow Delta 3 Plus is a very nice machine... except its AC inverter idle drain is around 40W which is basically abysmal for rated power level - their engineers really dropped the ball on that one (older Delta 2 Max is not nearly as bad). That made a decent case for Anker for charging higher prices for F2000/F2600 (their C1000 is usually priced more in line with competition).

But currently other players are catching up and yes, it is getting harder to justify Anker's prices. Bluetti 200v2 has about 12W idle drain, which is very respectable for its power and seems to be similar to Anker's F2000/F2600. And recently one could buy 200v2 for $730 refurb, and currently new ones are $900, making them a better deal indeed. Only obvious feature F2000 has over 200v2 are wheels and handle, and I have to admit that this is a nice feature for many/most people as lugging 50-60 pounds around can get really old really fast. Although young buff gym rats might see a 'heavy two-handled dumbbell' as a feature, not a bug LOL

Anker C1000 is nice unit, but it does not have GaN tech, and is known to be a bit noisier in operation, similar to many previous generations units, like Delta 2 etc. It needs a refresh.

Out of the current Anker's line up, F2000 and F2600 look like the best power stations to me (because of GaN tech leading to better efficiency), but price premium on their product is a bit much. Especially as 200v2 units have top grade LFP batteries certified for 6000 cycles Can't wait for everybody else to jump on that bandwagon.

Also, I do not like that nowhere on the Anker site they mention that refurbished units carry same 5-year warranty as new units. They almost imply that, but there is no clear wording. That is very different from either Ecoflow or Bluetti who have clear statements that their official refurb units are carrying the same 5 year warranty as new units. Makes me NOT want a refurb unit from Anker brand specifically, as I would rather not deal with generic Ebay's AllState warranty.

Anyway... for me Ecoflow River 3 (for low power use cases like router or FIOS ONT box) and Bluetti 200v2 (for higher but still kinda 'luggable' capacity/power) are clear winners - because of highest efficiency - so I ordered them. If F2000/F2600 were comparable in price/warranty I would not mind picking one up, but alas, that is not a case.
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Quote from Olek :
or example, new Ecoflow Delta 3 Plus is a very nice machine... except its AC inverter idle drain is around 40W which is basically abysmal for rated power level - their engineers really dropped the ball on that one (older Delta 2 Max is not nearly as bad). That made a decent case for Anker for charging higher prices for F2000/F2600 (their C1000 is usually priced more in line with competition).
i have two delta 3 plus units, and they do not idle at 40w with the inverter on at all. under 15 watts. it took around 70 hours (nearly 3 days) for my delta 3 plus to completely drain to zero. if you turn wifi off, the idle drain is even less.

the pre-production or early units tended to have an unusually high idle drain, but ecoflow said they were going to issue a firmware update to address this, and it seems that they did.

i also have a c1000x and the delta 3 plus is much quieter, and has a much nicer app. for instance the ecoflow keeps track of how much solar/ac/alternator charger intake you've taken in (hourly), and graphs it. it keeps track hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, etc.

my anker app displays in real time at the moment how much solar is being taken in, but does not even keep track of the daily total intake, as far as i can tell.

the app is very basic and limited.
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Quote from DocuMaker :
i have two delta 3 plus units, and they do not idle at 40w with the inverter on at all. under 15 watts. it took around 70 hours (nearly 3 days) for my delta 3 plus to completely drain to zero. if you turn wifi off, the idle drain is even less.

the pre-production or early units tended to have an unusually high idle drain, but ecoflow said they were going to issue a firmware update to address this, and it seems that they did.
Thank you so much for the updated info! 15W for 1800W inverter is still a bit worse than (supposed) 12W for 2600W inverter (on 200v2 model), but much better than 40W and it definitely puts Delta 3 Plus back on the map for me. Glad that this was some sort of issue fixable with firmware. Delta 3 Plus seems to be a very nice machine overall, and high idle power usage was my only real 'beef' with it. Looks like fimware update puts it more or less in a decent/average territory.

And yes, Anker C1000/C1000x is a little old in the tooth now, and is considered noisy by the standards of current tech, although it is considered to be a fairly robust unit.

I am a little surprised that Ecoflow put GaN tech into their smaller model River 3, but not in the Delta 3 series. If they used it in Delta 3, it would be a killer model line. Ecoflow River 3 has AC idle drain of only 4-5W, and with added load of FIOS ONT box at 5-6W, it lasts just a bit over 24 hours, which is pretty incredible for such a tiny box.
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Quote from Spacerus :
But... How do you know that the refurbished you bought wasn't already cycled 2000 times by the previous owner?

Hasn't existed long enough to cycle that many times.
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Quote from Olek :
I am a little surprised that Ecoflow put GaN tech into their smaller model River 3, but not in the Delta 3 series. If they used it in Delta 3, it would be a killer model line. Ecoflow River 3 has AC idle drain of only 4-5W, and with added load of FIOS ONT box at 5-6W, it lasts just a bit over 24 hours, which is pretty incredible for such a tiny box.

do you mean River3 or River3 PLUS

the problem is the River3 only has like 100watt XT60 input

River3Plus has 200watt XT60

but Delta3 series has 500wat XT60
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Quote from avalon :
do you mean River3 or River3 PLUS

the problem is the River3 only has like 100watt XT60 input

River3Plus has 200watt XT60

but Delta3 series has 500wat XT60
I have plain basic River 3. Got it because it has 2x smaller invertors than River 3+, implying slightly lower idle drain. And for low-power UPS use case (like powering up the router) it is the single parameter that matters the most - funny that it is never in the specs.

Ah, and as for 100W solar input... it is not actually the worst part. What is worse is that this solar input is capped at 30 Volts, which is really limiting. I somehow missed it, as River 3+ is capped at 55V and I thought it is going to be the same for River 3, but it is not. That is basically my only gripe about (plain) River 3.

Ultimately, solar input did not matter to me that much as I got it primarily as UPS for power outages - I am done with lead-acid units.

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Not a deal.
Compare this with the Delta max at 1250.
Delta max has better warranty, better price per wh and the delta max qualifies for the tax credit.
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